It is my choice to only buy American cars, so no arguments about if it is right or wrong, please. My question is; I like the new Grand Cherokee but I have a delema. Now that they are owned and managed by Fiat, it seems to me that makes it a foreign car now? So do we again only have 2 choices?
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It is my choice to only buy American cars, so no arguments about if it is right or wrong, please. My question is; I like the new Grand Cherokee but I have a delema. Now that they are owned and managed by Fiat, it seems to me that makes it a foreign car now? So do we again only have 2 choices?
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Just because they are majority owned by fiat that does not mean they are not American.Chrysler is still based and run hear just like they were when they were with dahlmer.So technically they are still American.
I always went with where does the money end up. That would be Fiat. Not sure then why is a Toyota that is built here not American?
I know Barry, but I really like that new Jeep. I am looking for a compelling arguement that they are still American. I am afraid I will have to look else where.
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IMO Chrysler still employes thousands of local workers independent of who the company is. Many suppliers for the big three are local no matter how unlocal the big three become.
If you buy the jeep get the upgraded navigation radio, the company I work for makes them so it supports Farmington Hills lol.
If you buy the jeep get the upgraded navigation radio, the company I work for makes them so it supports Farmington Hills lol.
I agree with ^. I have a lot of family and friends that work for Chrysler and they could really use the work. As long as they are being built in the area I'll buy them. There's a lot to be said for that. Think of all the electronics we own and most of them aren't built here or have headquarters here.
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Jeeps are so cool. One day when i have money, i hope to find an old wrangler sahara and do this. 
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Is anything actually totally made here anymore? Do we actually have a 100% American product for sale? Your in a dilema based on your ideals, to me even if it is manufactured here if the profit goes overseas then there is a problem. But we are all running out of choices to buy American, now we can only try to buy "somewhat" American. Nice Jeep though!
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I applaud your choice to buy American cars. See that, common ground. The Grand Cherokee is built at the Jefferson plant in Detroit by not only American workers but Michigan workers. The engineering and tooling was done here as well. Far more money stays right here in Detroit than goes overseas. Toyotas are engineered in Japan. The tooling is engineered and built in Japan and then shipped here. I have had at least 6 Grand Cherokees including the one I drive now and never a lick of trouble.
The Grand Cherokee is built at the Jefferson plant in Detroit by not only American workers but Michigan workers. The engineering and tooling was done here as well. Far more money stays right here in Detroit than goes overseas. Toyotas are engineered in Japan. The tooling is engineered and built in Japan and then shipped here. I have had at least 6 Grand Cherokees including the one I drive now and never a lick of trouble.So is the Buick LaCrosse and the profit stays here. Decision is tommorrow as I have put this off for a month now.I applaud your choice to buy American cars. See that, common ground.
Ask someone from the South and they will tell you the same thing about Toyota.
When I have a choice though it has to be an American product, which I have always defined as where does the money go. First lesson in B school....always follow the cash.
my friend just got the new grand cherokee with the 4.7 v8 in it. very nice and it's getting better mileage then their old patriot with a v6, right around 20 mpg.
funny thing is one of our friends is a service manager at a dodge dealer and he said the hemi equipped models get even better mileage because of the cylinder drop they use on that engine.
he also said the grand cherokee's have one of the better service records. he's owned them for many years and never had a problem with one of them.
i think they still have lifetime drivetrain warranty also.
funny thing is one of our friends is a service manager at a dodge dealer and he said the hemi equipped models get even better mileage because of the cylinder drop they use on that engine.
he also said the grand cherokee's have one of the better service records. he's owned them for many years and never had a problem with one of them.
i think they still have lifetime drivetrain warranty also.
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So were they American when Benz owned them? The funny thing is a lot of the parts put on "American" cars aren't even built in America. At least you know the car is built here!! Are the "foreign" cars built here any less American? I know we live in Detroit, and the "Big 3" is here. Safe to say buying a Jeep might even help someone on this site keep a job.
BTW the hemi's only get better millage on the freeway, and thats only if you can keep your foot off the gas. other than that it will suck gas like any other late model v8.
Yep, I thought they were a German car when Daimler owned them. I know it will help jobs here but so does the Buick or the Ford, plus the profit stays here. Thanks for the reply I am making a long term decision and just want it right...in my mind.
Following the cash is not nearly as simple as most people make it out to be.
Fiat is a public company with an easy to purchase ADR in this country. Americans can invest in, as profit-taking owners, Fiat, Toyota, Honda, etc. Using the "where do the profits go" argument is a waste of time. You can twist the results to make any point you want to. I'd recommend basing your decision on what best supports your local economy. In Michigan that would mean the 3 "American" car companies. In Alabama it makes more sense to support Toyota.
My dilemma is this: I live and work where support for GM benefits my local economy. At the same time, I own significant stock in Toyota, the dividends and appreciation of which have allowed me to live better and spend more money here in Michigan. So what car do I buy? For me, it's just a simple decision of what car I want, which offers the best quality for the money, and which company has treated me best in the best. The rest takes care of itself.
Fiat is a public company with an easy to purchase ADR in this country. Americans can invest in, as profit-taking owners, Fiat, Toyota, Honda, etc. Using the "where do the profits go" argument is a waste of time. You can twist the results to make any point you want to. I'd recommend basing your decision on what best supports your local economy. In Michigan that would mean the 3 "American" car companies. In Alabama it makes more sense to support Toyota.
My dilemma is this: I live and work where support for GM benefits my local economy. At the same time, I own significant stock in Toyota, the dividends and appreciation of which have allowed me to live better and spend more money here in Michigan. So what car do I buy? For me, it's just a simple decision of what car I want, which offers the best quality for the money, and which company has treated me best in the best. The rest takes care of itself.
Following the cash is not nearly as simple as most people make it out to be.
At the same time, I own significant stock in Toyota, the dividends and appreciation of which have allowed me to live better and spend more money here in Michigan.What, the Japanese government did not force them into bankruptsy and steal your money? Guess I should have bought Toyota bonds.
I have a jeep wrangler 4 door 2009. I love it. It was built in toledo so I would say its american. Does it matter whos fat pockets get the final profit there not going to do anything for you with it rather it hear or there. I too only buy american though I like my cars they are far from perfect my edge needed a new trans after 30,000 miles and my jeep has several squeaks that I let slide because its a jeep but for 26,000$ you think they could work that out.
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Your right cars American cars are made in Mexico, the question asked earlier was how do you know where the money goes. I worked in a small stamping plant for 12 years and we would produce a part here in Michigan, ship it to Mexico to have it assembled and then shipped to Canada to have it put on the truck. Where exactly does the money go? For sure some of it went into my pocket, but most of I couldn't tell you.
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