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My kole tang is almost dead from ich I'm very sad.he's my fav.fish are hippo tang died :( my moms foxface has ich and so do both of our clowns and the 6 line wrasse is somewhere I had to move all the rock myself while my mom went to work and I'm 15 the formation doant look very good it's been a bad day but at least me and my mom can get coral I've got 50 or 40 bucks saved up I might buy a nice plate coral. TODAY SUCKED thanks for veiwing
 
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Parameters are the Nitrates, nitrites, PH, Ammonia, calcium, alk....
If you don't have a kit, you should take a sample of water (like half a water bottle) to your LFS and have them test it for you.

Also, how long has the tank been in your possession? If it was just recently transported to your place, and you're still setting up the rock, the fish could still be stressed. Tangs are very very notorious for having ich, and once they get it, it can and will spread to the rest of the tank if it gets bad enough. The only thing i could say is to scrap the idea for the plate coral, and buy some meds for your tank. Since i'm sure you have/want a reef tank, i would get some natural stuff. My other tank had a bad case of ich, and i used some natural ich meds (Can't remember the name). I did double the dose of what it recommends, and it got rid of my ich case, and i've never had it again.
 
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Those can't be the alk numbers way too low and generally alk will be a spot on measurment, not a range. If it seems like were all harping about water parameter numbers, we are, they are that important. Manage your water properly and good things will happen, neglect it and bad things will happen. Keep us in tune to what's happening in your tank and your numbers and everyone here will help you get the tank where you want it. Until your issues are solved don't buy any new critters.
 
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Ich or Brook?

Are you sure your fish have Ich or could it be Brooklynella? If you introduced wild clownfish then the probablility is its Brook not Ich. It is estimated that 80% of wild clowns have Brook. Brook can only be cured with 37% Formalin baths. And the previous post was correct, i.e., you have to leave your main tank fallow (fish-less) for 8 weeks. If its Ich, the parasite has a three stage life cycle; one stage is the eggs which can lay dormant in the tank substrata for up to eight weeks before they hatch. When they hatch they become swimmers and have to find a host in hours or die. If its Brook, the parasite multiplies by cell division. The new cell is a swimmer which can persist in the tank water for up to 4 weeks looking for a host fish. If it does not find one it dies. You can only tell the difference between Ich and Brook by taking a tissue samples from the fish and examing it under a microscope. So you need to treat the fish for both. The only chemical that will cure both is Formalin.
 
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Thanks for the help folks. Matt added a captive bred clown, from ORA. The ich was first noticed on the Blue Hippo tang, and spread from there. So far the Kole and blue tang have both been lost, and the remaining fish are being held here in the store in a tank system treated with copper. (The first 48 hours are at .25 mg/l and the then they will be moved into .5 mg/l for 12 more days.)

Matt and Sue have decided to let the tank be empty as well, for the 6-8 week period, to make sure that the fish do not get re-infected on re-intruction. They have also expressed interest in setting up a QT tank for future additions. (QT is ALWAYS a good idea, but very few of us (myself included) do it. :( )

Thank you everyone for helping out, this is what makes MR a great place.
 
Discussion starter · #18 ·
Howdy These are the test results mike from reef paradise said that we have ammonia probably because we had to move all our rock around to get the six line wrasse out so anyway here are the results
Nh3(4) is .25
No2 is 0
No3 is 0
Ph is 8.2
Kh is 8 dkh
Ca is 360

Those are the test results and mike helped us thanks mike
 
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Ammonia is deadly in a tank, and you should do a water change asap. It will take time and several water changes to bring it down. In the meantime, like you said, keep it fishless to allow the ich to die and get your parameters back in line. Since you're pretty new to reefing, its a good idea to get your own test kits - not that the fish store is steering you in the wrong direction but lots of stores use the cheapest tests they can and they may even be expired. I use the lfs to double check mine if I'm in doubt.

Use this time to carefully research what you want to keep and make sure your tank can handle it. Then, add things slowly (like a fish or coral a week) to allow your tank to adjust. Money is a valueable thing and to waste it to have something die is sad, especially since they're living things.
 
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