What would you think of a vendor that sold a friend of mine (new to the hobby) two Chevrons for a 145 gallon reef and one of them has ich bad?
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Did it have bad ick when they bought it, as in could they noticably see it at the time of perchase, or did it develope ick after it was put in the tank?
If the vendor sold it too them with noticable ick, I would be upset and very dissapointed in the way that vendor conducts buisness and their buisness ethics and depending on the circumstances, may or may not go back there again. I hope that it was not one of the sponcers of MR, as I could not imagine them doing something like that. Then again ick in the "bad" stages IMO, isnt very hard to miss weather your new to the hobby or not.
But if it developed ick after the fact with no signs of it at the time of purchase, then it is just bad luck. Tangs get ick really easily. I bought two tangs that were healthy as can be for the month I QT'ed them, then the second I put them in the main tank, within two days ick had taken over them and killed them. No one to blame but the evil parasite itself. You cant blame the vendor if something like this happens.
Either way I would be upset in general because ick is evil-angry
If the vendor sold it too them with noticable ick, I would be upset and very dissapointed in the way that vendor conducts buisness and their buisness ethics and depending on the circumstances, may or may not go back there again. I hope that it was not one of the sponcers of MR, as I could not imagine them doing something like that. Then again ick in the "bad" stages IMO, isnt very hard to miss weather your new to the hobby or not.
But if it developed ick after the fact with no signs of it at the time of purchase, then it is just bad luck. Tangs get ick really easily. I bought two tangs that were healthy as can be for the month I QT'ed them, then the second I put them in the main tank, within two days ick had taken over them and killed them. No one to blame but the evil parasite itself. You cant blame the vendor if something like this happens.
Either way I would be upset in general because ick is evil-angry
Bad from the store he put it in the tank and then I saw it. He is new to the hobby and did not know. I can't believe he sold it to him especially after he just bought a bunch of rock and coral from them. He will call the vendor tomorrow but You know how that goes after it was put in the tank......
How long has his/her tank been up and running? If he is buying rock and coral still, it sounds like the tank hasnt been running for very long and putting tangs in too early could kill them. Either way, the phone call would be worth it, but they will porbably just tell your friend its not their fault and they'll have to take the hit unfortunatly
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is this the same 1 month old tank with the anenome in it?bcarroll said:
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ok but in the other thread you said its YOUR tank.. and this thread its your friends tank..
agreed tank is too young to be adding anything, let alone two tangs...... however........ you can't put the entire fault of that on the lfs that sold them. A hobbiest should know that it was too early to add fish to his tank to begin with....... ignorance is no excuse for the law. If you want to lay blame, you'll have to lay that on both sides.......
As for the ich....... if it was on the fish when he bought it........ shame on him for buying it..... If it developed on the fish after he bought it..... in no way can you fault the lfs for that.......... I only have one word for that...... QUARANTINE!
JMO
As for the ich....... if it was on the fish when he bought it........ shame on him for buying it..... If it developed on the fish after he bought it..... in no way can you fault the lfs for that.......... I only have one word for that...... QUARANTINE!
JMO
I didn't read anything beyond the original post...
I think this is one of the million reasons why I never bought anything live from an online store.
Come to think of it, I doubt that any of the online stores care about who they're selling to. Has anyone ordered anything live from a site and had them ask about your tank or experience level first? Just curious and thinking out loud...
I think this is one of the million reasons why I never bought anything live from an online store.
Come to think of it, I doubt that any of the online stores care about who they're selling to. Has anyone ordered anything live from a site and had them ask about your tank or experience level first? Just curious and thinking out loud...
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75gal..
actually yes I have.. when I ordered from Liveaquaria they asked me some questions before they sold me the Dragon wrasse I bought for red79's B-day
but thats was a FIRST
actually yes I have.. when I ordered from Liveaquaria they asked me some questions before they sold me the Dragon wrasse I bought for red79's B-day
but thats was a FIRST
Ok, I assume you called them? What if I type in the order on their site and click "finish transaction" (or whatever)?
bcarroll, I read the rest of this thread and your other one. No offense, but slow down and take your time. Research and learn about this hobby. While your doing that your tank will be maturing enough to handle fish and inverts. Moving this fast with limited knowledge is a recipe for disaster. Trust me, I know. That was my introduction into the hobby...
bcarroll, I read the rest of this thread and your other one. No offense, but slow down and take your time. Research and learn about this hobby. While your doing that your tank will be maturing enough to handle fish and inverts. Moving this fast with limited knowledge is a recipe for disaster. Trust me, I know. That was my introduction into the hobby...
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true.......75gal.reefowner said:
If you plan to get into corals down the road (atleast 6 months down the road or longer IMO), I might suggest getting your tank stocked with fish first, then inverts such as snails, crabs, shrimps, etc., then proceed to corals. The reason for this being it is much easier to treat the tank for disease if there are no inverts or corals in the tank that could be negatively affected by many medications.
Have you setup a quarantine tank or read anything about setting one up? This small investment can pay off BIG in the future. (One of my most recent customers was able to save about $200 worth of livestock because he setup a quarantine tank that he had about $30 invested into.) When you purchase a fish, it is much easier to acclimate it to captivity by introducing it into a tank by itself where it doesn't have to pushed around by more established fish, has an easier time feeding and rebuilding its immunity system, is as easy to treat the fish solitarly if the worse happens and it gets sick quickly because of it's immunity system being drastically lowered during the whole the shipping process, etc.
Have you setup a quarantine tank or read anything about setting one up? This small investment can pay off BIG in the future. (One of my most recent customers was able to save about $200 worth of livestock because he setup a quarantine tank that he had about $30 invested into.) When you purchase a fish, it is much easier to acclimate it to captivity by introducing it into a tank by itself where it doesn't have to pushed around by more established fish, has an easier time feeding and rebuilding its immunity system, is as easy to treat the fish solitarly if the worse happens and it gets sick quickly because of it's immunity system being drastically lowered during the whole the shipping process, etc.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with this. If you treat in the main tank your likely killing the beneficial things that came in on that expensive rock. That's what a quarantine tank is for. Why are we letting our tanks mature before adding fish? So that the life in the rocks/sand can grow to better handle the future bioload (among other things). Treating in the main tank will only ruin the time spent letting the tank mature. So, you'll basically end up with fish in a now again immature tank.gofishbiz said:
Treat any fish in a quarantine tank. Add clean up critters first (as needed, not 100 at a time). Add corals as you want after the tank is mature. Add fish slowly after the tank is mature.
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