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we have a trading forum and selling forum... but what about an auction forum? it would cut down on that missing out due to timing thing, and be kinda fun. a local ebay for coral and fish.

people would get fair market value, sometimes more sometimes less...
 
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Hate to shoot this down fast but I am going to say no way to this one. Currently we are trying to control the amount of selling/trading threads created a day and now we add an auction forum on top of that...... As for now I will have to say no...

I think we need to get back to the topic of Reefing descussions and less of the selling/trading.... Maybe one day.
 
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In regards to the selling and trading what about charging a fee to use the selling forums. Since MI Reefers is providing an avenue to sell stuff just like a paper or ebay why shouldnt it be entitled to have a fee. This would also help to discourage so much selling too I think. I would leave the trading free as I think we try to promote that more so than trying to make a buck.
 
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I'll be honest, I don't see why so much selling is a big deal. There is only so much "reef discussion" that can go on, and except for people with the questions, it really doesn't bring anyone back to the message boards. I think checking for new things on the selling forums is one of the big draws for people to keep checking the boards again and again. I can't believe it takes that much moderation to keep the selling areas clean of stuff that shouldn't be there, so I'm curious as to why you want to limit the amount of selling. However, if you do want to pretty much stop most selling, charging a fee would pretty much do it. I do agree though that if you want auctions, go to Ebay.
 
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reef120 said:
Hate to shoot this down fast but I am going to say no way to this one. Currently we are trying to control the amount of selling/trading threads created a day and now we add an auction forum on top of that...... As for now I will have to say no...

I think we need to get back to the topic of Reefing descussions and less of the selling/trading.... Maybe one day.
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I don't really like the auction thing myself either, but I also don't know why anyone cares how much selling goes on. I wish some more new topic information would come up myself, but I see the circle of information coming around as new people come and alot of the same topics re-surface, which isn't always that fun and exciting to say again. My only concern is that selling is trying to be limited because it is cutting in on your sponsors, and if that is the case I think this is going in the way wrong direction.
 
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i gotta say i'm surprised that not many people would like an auction section. heck, sponsors could auction things too... maybe their yumas wouldnt get 200 bucks a polyp but at least they wouldnt sit in the store for 6 months.
 
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Personally, I am not sure I would like to see an auction type forum, but I do understand your thoughts for one Blitz, but, I think it would create a lot more work than what you think, many people here get upset when the mods do their daily jobs, could only imagine what could happen with an auction....

Paint,

I agree, there is only so much reef discusion that can happen here, but, back when this board was set up, it was a very friendly comfortable place to ask the questions we wanted answers to, as you know, summers around here are light in new topics, happens year after year, I am sure as soon as fall comes the boards will begin to buzz once again.

ereefer,

I am pretty sure that is not the way it is heading, Vito is a pretty stand up guy, it does take money to run this site though, and time is another issue, I myself have been very busy lately as is the same with many of the mods,and just haven't had the time necessary to put forth the effort needed to keep this site going in the right direction,we are working on some stuff to help fix that issue currently....

John
 
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Well, having been around the board for quite a while and seeing the changes, I'd have to say I would not be a fan of an auction site. I agree that the site has become too much of a selling forum as opposed to an information forum. Personally, and IMO, I also think the sponsors toe the line a bit on their online selling and promotion, but I understand that they are hear to promote themselves, so....

With regards to topics, that is always a cyclical issue. We have several times in the past attempted to have a designated new topic or discussion schedule. Its great to prompt more in depth discussion of the nuances of the hobby, but it rarely lasts very long before interests wanes.
 
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ereefer,

I am pretty sure that is not the way it is heading, Vito is a pretty stand up guy, it does take money to run this site though, and time is another issue, I myself have been very busy lately as is the same with many of the mods,and just haven't had the time necessary to put forth the effort needed to keep this site going in the right direction,we are working on some stuff to help fix that issue currently....

John
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Isn't there like 6 or so of you? I realize this past weekend was like war around here, that happens with people who talk to each other so much. I just wonder why if you are short on mod help you guys don't just get one or two more. I guess i am not sure what it entails to be a mod or admin, but i can't imagine this is like a "job" right? I don't get it I guess, this board is or isn't for someone's profit? I am not intentionally disrespectful if I sound that way.
 
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Not sure about the profit aspect, and no it is not like a job, but after a 12-14 hour day at my job, sometimes it can get tricky. Please keep in mind that this is volunteer, there are no perks that come with this position.

There is a lot more that goes on behind the scenes than people realize, believe me, I am sure that Vito would love to have more help, but, I think there is more to it than that.....
 
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I guess maybe I don't understand all the regulations on the selling of items, but wouldn't you guys rather have people selling here and keeping stuff local instead of running to the other boards, or even that other auction site? I am not sure if an auction forum on here would work to well people get burned just selling.
 
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ereefer said:
Isn't there like 6 or so of you? I realize this past weekend was like war around here, that happens with people who talk to each other so much. I just wonder why if you are short on mod help you guys don't just get one or two more. I guess i am not sure what it entails to be a mod or admin, but i can't imagine this is like a "job" right? I don't get it I guess, this board is or isn't for someone's profit? I am not intentionally disrespectful if I sound that way.
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I think that was a first time on a weekend, that I can think of..... that some of the Mods weren't on to help out. That was addressed by the Staff and plan to fill in the gap more, even with all that is going on.

As for an auction forum.........I support Vito's decision on that.
 
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oh ok, i didn't know if there was something going on that I was not aware of. I wasn't at all disagreeing about the auction thing, that's what ebay is for IMO.

BTW Acerhigh:
I tried driving off a cliff and you were right-devil
 
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I guess I do Have another comment about the selling forums. I don't agree with people who only own freshwater tanks who come here just to sell and buy. If you're not a reefer, and have NEVER posted other than buy and sell, I don't think you belong here.
 
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we can't say who can and can't come here....... a lot of people who currently own freshwater setups come here to learn about saltwater..

there are no freshwater sales allowed..... however it's fine line due to a lot of the equipment is the same. we have to allow that equipment, but usually if it says freshwater that will get edited out.

we did impliment a 15 post or 30 day minimum for all new members before they can post anything in the selling forum. That has helped some with the people who join just to sell.
 
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Listen everyone I want to try and clear up my initial response to my thoughts about an action forum.

First there is more to just setting up a new forum and calling it the Auction Forum" for us to even set something up like that we need to plan not only the start of the forum but what can result from it.
We need to design the correct functions of that new forum and make it really work like an auction and not just an are where you can post item with a price and end date, this had to be all automated so that it truly ends on that date and the higher bidder is actually the higher bidder and tie it in with a member feedback system and most important logging features. Now with that all said we now need to spend more time as mods to participate in that new forum, which to make that explanation short more time in moderation.

What most members don't understand is that we answer over 45-50 emails and PM's per day along with hours of moderation, and maintenance of the site on a daily basis, believe John when he says there is more to moderation then just moving and
editing threads.

Maybe one day we can be in a position when we might introduce an auction area, but what is funny is we actually had an auction area fully running about 1 year ago for Sponsors & Premium Members but no one used the system so we turned it off.

Now let me clear up the selling and trading forums response that I gave earlier. What I meant by controlling the selling/trading forums was not stating that we need to cut down in that area, as I am a strong believer in those forums and trying to keep sales and traded within our community but rather I meant was we don't want to make our site just about trades and sales but rather a site that anyone and any age can come get educated about the hobby we all love and yet maintain an nice area where we can buy and trade from each other.

Controlling the selling/trading forums is about making sure that no one introduces or tries to sell non-reef related item or to strictly register on our site an do nothing but sell which we get tons of all these flavors believe it or not. As to sponsors auctions each sponsor has the opportunity to sell there products within
there assigned forums and how they choose to sell them is totally up to them as we do not hinder there choice. Then can auction something or first 10 people to arrive at there front door by 7:00am get 2 free frags it totally there choice ( HINT HINT). and as to members as long as your not running a coral farm and trying to sell your stuff at a commercial level we have no issues.

Our site consists of many types of reefers and all ages and keeping a happy balance can get a bit challenging as everyone expresses there own opinion its always hard to make a fair and equal judgement, where if one thing is good for some it may not suit another.

I think that lately with some of the threads that have been posted many of us have been stirred up and distracted about what we are all here for which is knowledge sharing and experience.
 
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