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#21 ·
tazzy695 said:
to me it sounds more like a manjo anenome not aiptasia as aiptasia anchor and stay put like a coral and will kill corals

manjo look differently and are able to move around pictures would help greatly in the identification but kalk water and joes juice injected into the nem are said to work well on boath I think
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Aiptasia can also move...seen them run from my Berghia Nudi's -devil
 
#22 ·
Sounds like you got aiptasia and majano anemones. Aiptasia does swim, i've witnessed this myself. The ones that dont have a trunk sound like majano.

the ones that swim, remind me of a squid moving. The ones the seem to not move, look similar to the ones that move, but they do not appear to have a trunk like the swimming ones. When you touch them, the ones on the rock, they break apart easily, but then again do not want to come off of anything easy.
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#24 ·
Do some searching on google. Find a picture that is similar to what you have. If you find something that looks close post it in here. The pics that you posted do not help.

Majano Anemone:Usually brown and green, some have bubble tips.
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Aiptasia: mostly brown some get large
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#26 ·
I've had the swimming anemones before. They look similar to aptasia, but have shorter curly tentacles and no long "stem", and only get about 1/4" to 1/2" diameter. They split like crazy, swim away if bothered, and can cover everything in your tank in no time. They make aptasia look like good guys.-devil 2
"The Reef Aquarium" volume 2 has a pic of them on page 426, and states they may be turtle grass anemones.
They plastered my 180g a long time ago.
We spent many hours using a hose attached to a canister filter with a needle stuck in the end to get them to let loose, and sucking them up with the hose. Several 4-6 hour sessions were required to get rid of them. They multiply by pedal laceration like aptasia, and split constantly.
I saw them in a tank at a store recently-gave me chills :eek:
Keep an eye out for them people, they are a terrible plague
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
DlBerlin said:
I've had the swimming anemones before. They look similar to aptasia, but have shorter curly tentacles and no long "stem", and only get about 1/4" to 1/2" diameter. They split like crazy, swim away if bothered, and can cover everything in your tank in no time. They make aptasia look like good guys.-devil 2
"The Reef Aquarium" volume 2 has a pic of them on page 426, and states they may be turtle grass anemones.
They plastered my 180g a long time ago.
Keep an eye out for them people, they are a terrible plague
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Sounds like I probably have two or more kinds overrunning my tank. Now what to do and how to keep them from coming back?
Suck them off, to me sounds almost impossible, but not afraid to try. Probably could setup an old canister filter with a prob and start going after them.

It might be more enjoyable to watch them get ate. How about Berghia verrucicornis or a raccoon butterfly?

I have two peppermint shrimp.

And/Or something else?
 
Discussion starter · #28 ·
Wasga said:
Do some searching on google. Find a picture that is similar to what you have. If you find something that looks close post it in here. The pics that you posted do not help.

Majano Anemone:Usually brown and green, some have bubble tips.
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Aiptasia: mostly brown some get large
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What is funny, my seems to be slightly different looking. I have some with bubble tips, some with stalk or trunks.
 
#29 ·
How large of a tank do you have?
I'm not sure if berghia will eat the swimming anemones-they are supposed to eat only aptasia. Kirbster may know. As you have found out already, copperbands can be touchy fish and will also eat any type of worm or featherdusters in your tank.
Several people have had good luck with a silver scat acclimated to saltwater (they are normally brackish) but they do get large and may eat lots of other stuff you don't want them to. With an infestation like you describe it would take a lot more peppermints to even put a dent in them.
Deb
 
#30 ·
Keep in mind there are 2 different types of peppermint shrimp. One comes from Florida and they eat aiptasia. Another comes from somewhere else and does not eat them. If you get the right kind, they eat aiptasia like a little kid eats candy...plus they're a nice addition after the aiptasia are gone because they will scavenge. Bergias will only eat aiptasia, and will quickly eat themselves out of a home. Unless you trade them, they will die.

Also, looks like you have an algae problem from the pics, you may want to step up on your water changes to level things out...you may have better luck with the fish that eat aiptasia.
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
weimers75 said:
Keep in mind there are 2 different types of peppermint shrimp. One comes from Florida and they eat aiptasia. Another comes from somewhere else and does not eat them. If you get the right kind, they eat aiptasia like a little kid eats candy...plus they're a nice addition after the aiptasia are gone because they will scavenge. Bergias will only eat aiptasia, and will quickly eat themselves out of a home. Unless you trade them, they will die.

Also, looks like you have an algae problem from the pics, you may want to step up on your water changes to level things out...you may have better luck with the fish that eat aiptasia.
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Thanks for your advice, tank is 55 and I do 5gal once a week change, not sure that is enough? Not sure what kind of shrimp I have will have to ask, got them from midwest corals in IN.
 
#34 ·
I have been battling Majano for yrs. I have tried joe juice, kalk, and everything else that you can inject into these things. none of them worked. The best result for natural removal would be adding a raccoon butterfly or BI-color angel . Beware that both this fish will eat all types of coral, trust me i have tried it. The best result by far is cooking your rock. This will also clean the rock of all other unwanted growth, while sponges and bactria remain. You would be suprise of what will come off your rock. Cook took 3 months to remove all my Majano.
 
Discussion starter · #35 ·
Dejavu said:
I have been battling Majano for yrs. I have tried joe juice, kalk, and everything else that you can inject into these things. none of them worked. The best result for natural removal would be adding a raccoon butterfly or BI-color angel . Beware that both this fish will eat all types of coral, trust me i have tried it. The best result by far is cooking your rock. This will also clean the rock of all other unwanted growth, while sponges and bactria remain. You would be suprise of what will come off your rock. Cook took 3 months to remove all my Majano.
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wow. Sounds like something I might have to do, hate to take the tank apart. I might try the fish methode first. So far cannot find a scat, my salt guy does not get raccoons in because they are not reef safe. I only have a few corals in my tank at this point.

I uploaded another pict, is cooking curing the rock?

Thanks
Rene
 
#36 ·
Curing the rock is putting it in a tank till all the nasties come out of it...ie mantis shrimp, aptasia's, and also the dead stuff from transport finally stop releasing amonia so they are stable when you put them in your main tank.
 
Discussion starter · #37 ·
hardcz said:
Curing the rock is putting it in a tank till all the nasties come out of it...ie mantis shrimp, aptasia's, and also the dead stuff from transport finally stop releasing amonia so they are stable when you put them in your main tank.
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Hi, how do you go about cooking or curing the rock? Will this kill the coralline algae, all the worms, etc? If I have anomies in my tank, only curing the rock will only clean the rock right, not the sand bed, glass, etc.. Coralline algae cover the glass and everything else in the tank. I was told just one peck of the anomies foot, will just re-grow? Would it not be worth the effort trying to control it? Seems like the only way to get ride of it would to be taring everything down and start over and I am not sure at this point I want to do that.

thanks...
 
#38 ·
well yes cooking rock will kill everything and you would basicly be starting from scratch

curing rock is totaly different basicly it is similure to cycling by letting the rock shed off all the dieoff and stabalize with ph and everything else

basicly your rock should be already cured if it wasn't you would be showing strong ph swings and high ammonia and other aspects of the bio cycling process

to cook rock basicly you place the rock in a large pot with water and bring the rock to a boil just rember to only put the rocks in cold water and bring the temp up and down slowly to prevent the rock from exploding or breaking apart violently
 
#39 ·
do you have fish or corals in the tank yet if not then I would sugest using kalk to create a ph spike for a couple of days this should kill the nems with any luck
 
#40 ·
tazzy695 said:
to cook rock basicly you place the rock in a large pot with water and bring the rock to a boil just rember to only put the rocks in cold water and bring the temp up and down slowly to prevent the rock from exploding or breaking apart violently
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No!
Cooking rock basically involves keeping the rock in saltwater, with no light, food etc... and doing regular water changes on it for an extended period of time. This keeps the bacteria intact (somewhat) but causes the die off of light dependent organisms, and the frequent water changes without food input help to clean the rock of excess nutrients. People use this technique to "cleans" the rock of phosphate, etc... and it's generally used by people with severe algae problems. Aptasia however can live a LONG time without light, feeding on pods etc... I have seen a rock storage tank full of aptasia that had never had a light on it. They were transparent, but very healthy looking:eek:
 
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